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Winning Against Players Who Never Fold

*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

Hello Roy,
 
First I like to say your information is right on
the money. I come across a usual situation a few
times when I play 100 dollar buy-in with my
friends.

I have a few friends that always seem to chase
their straights or flushes no matter how bad their
odds are. Sometimes they need two cards to
complete their hand. I usually bet heavy into
these players when I hold top pair or pocket pairs
to scare them out but I can't seem to get them to
fold. I usually win but sometimes I have two of
them chasing their straight or flush and when one
hits I get pissed and puts me on tilt. I don't
know what to do because I want to protect my hand
and not let them play for free.
 
K.F.
Vancouver, Canada


>>> MY COMMENTS:

The only thing WORSE than a player who never folds
is someone who doesn't know how to BEAT a player
who never folds...

C'mon man, the answer to this is EASY!

GO ALL-IN.

That's it.

 If you've got top pair and your friends at the
table are chasing a straight or a flush, put them
to a decision for all their chips.

You said it yourself... you "usually" win.

Any time your odds can be described as "USUALLY",
then you need to push your entire stack in the
middle.

Period.

If they call, great. You'll "usually" win all
their money. If they fold, that's good too,
because you still won the hand.

Oh yea, and one more thing...

Quit being such a baby when you lose. You'll never
win ALL THE TIME so just get over it already. Lol.


*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

Hi Roy

I love your emails - each one of them makes me a
better player although I've got a lot of work to
do. I thought I knew how to play, signed up at an
online casino and lost it all. Bought your course,
re-read it and read your emails and play a lot.
Put in cash again a month ago and have won all I
lost back. Thanks.

Anyways, regarding slow plays, what if someone
else is betting? What I mean is you've hit a big
hand (trips, flush or boat on flop). Out comes
Drew in front of you and he bets the pot (say
there is $20 in the pot before the flop at a No
limit $1/2 blinds table) so Drew bets $20. Two
others call. You are pretty sure you have them all
beat. Do you re-raise or just call? If you just
call and Drew bets again, do you re-raise at this
point or keep going till the river to push him all
in?

Thanks in advance,

P.


>>> MY COMMENTS:

I'm glad to hear you won all your money back...

Good work.

When you've hit a big hand and there are three
other players in the hand, you need to be VERY
CAREFUL...

Chances are, someone's going to be on a draw. Pay
close attention to the cards on the board, and
figure out what these players are betting with.

If there are two cards of the same suit on the
board and you have trips (three-of-a-kind), you
need to make a LARGE re-raise... or go all in.

Because if you DON'T, and someone hits their
flush, you're in big trouble. (A flush beats a
three-of-a-kind.)

On the other hand... let's say the flop hits:

4c,9c,Qc

And you've got Ac,2c in your hand.

What then?

Well, you've flopped what's called the "NUT
FLUSH", which means it's the best possible flush
(because you have the Ace).

If Drew and two other players at the table are in
the hand, I would probably just call here...

And I'd be PRAYING that another club hit the
board on the turn card or river card.

Why?

Because that means someone ELSE will have the
flush also, and will probably bet a large amount,
ESPECIALLY if they have the King of clubs.

And after that fourth club hits, that's the
PERFECT opportunity for you to go all-in and win
ALL of their chips... since your Ace-high flush
will beat their King-high flush...

The point is, if you have a big hand and there's
any type of DRAW on the board that can beat you,
you want to raise big...

Examples of this would be:

- You have the flush but there is a pair on the
board, which means someone might make a full
house (a.k.a. "boat")...

- You have a "set" (three-of-a-kind) but there are
two spades on the board and someone might draw a
flush...

- You have a straight and someone might make a
flush if they get one more card...

- You have two pair and someone might make a
straight...

- And so on.

A lot of players would SHY AWAY from betting big
when there's a draw on the board, because they're
afraid of losing all their chips.

But you MUST do the EXACT OPPOSITE.

If you have a big hand, you must BET IT. Because
that's the ONLY WAY your opponent is going to
fold his hand.

If he folds, you win.

If he DOESN'T fold, the odds are in your favor...

And the BEST possible thing to do in no-limit
Texas Holdem is to get ALL YOUR CHIPS IN THE
MIDDLE when you have the best odds of winning.

Period.

Will you win every time?

No.

Will your opponent get lucky sometimes and catch
the "miracle" card he needs?

Absolutely.

But that's okay. Because if you let your opponent
STAY IN THE HAND and see the turn and river cards
without going all-in, you're doing two (stupid)
things:

1. You're opening yourself up for a bad beat by
giving him the chance to catch his card...

2. If you win (which will USUALLY happen when you
have a big hand), you won't win as much money as
if you had put him all-in...

In other words, when you don't have the balls to
go all-in on a big hand, you'll lose these hands
MORE OFTEN... and when you DO win, the pot will be
smaller anyway.

So heed this advice:

GO ALL-IN!


*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

Hey man,

I appreciate all the newsletters and the awesome
wisdom from your book. There is only one thing
that I still have trouble with.

I guess some days is just not your day. I was
playing a friendly no limit game the other night,
and just did not win a hand.

Every time I hit a hand, I would get beat by a
dumb call draw, since I was short stacked. Is
there any way around this?

Thanks again,
R.P.
New Jersey


>>> MY COMMENTS:

Sounds like you caught a bad run of cards. It
happens to all of us... so don't worry about it.

Your question, however, brings up a VERY
INTERESTING point... And that is:

Sometimes it's just NOT your day.

Oh how true.

Once you get a decent amount of poker experience
under your belt, you'll notice this phenomenon
more and more.

Sometimes, no matter what you do, you just won't
be "on"...

And what most players do when this happens is keep
playing... more and more... whether that means
spending more money online, re-buying into a
tournament, or whatever.

What you SHOULD do is just STOP for the night.

Period.

Don't bet any more money... because you're just
going to be throwing it away.

Even the best poker players I know fall victim to
this once in awhile... and the REASON is simple:

Poker players don't like to STOP until they've
made money.

It's the same way at casinos... People will sit
and there and feed the slot machines coin after
coin after coin, waiting to WIN before they leave.

It's just plain dumb.

If you're catching bad cards, and you're not
winning any hands, just stop playing.

Go home, get a good night's rest, watch a movie,
or do whatever... Just DON'T play any more poker
for the day.

If you took a REALLY bad set of beats, you may
even want to take a few days off... or a few WEEKS
off.

But the point is, when it's not your day, it's not
your day.

Don't try to "force" it. Don't tell yourself that
it's "impossible to keep catching such terrible
cards".

Trust me, it's possible.

So just accept the fact that it's NOT YOUR DAY
and stop playing.

In terms of money management, this is probably the
number one MOST IMPORTANT rule. Follow this advice
and you'll save yourself a lot of headaches (and
money) in the future.


*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

Roy,
Here is a question I would like the answer to. Why
would a player go all in before the flop with
$2000 or more dollars to win $20,30,40, dollars
etc. pot? It don't make sense to me.

One game I was dealt pocket AA and there were some
bets before the flop, which had one A in it. I
waited and someone made a big bet before the turn
which I raised and won a BIG pot, did I play this
wrong? I hope you can answer this in an email like
this one.

Thank You,
N.


>>> MY COMMENTS:

Hmmm... let me get this straight:

You won a BIG pot with a monster hand, and you're
asking me if you "played it wrong"?

Huh?

The answer is NO.

You didn't play it wrong. Last I checked, winning
big pots is the RIGHT thing to do.

Now go win some more!


*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

Roy,

How am I supposed to handle a player that
consistently out draws me? I have been all in for
some huge pots and the same guy, whom is my
friend, keeps out drawing me.

I have been ran down with trip aces, trip kings,
and a better full house than mine on the river. Am
I supposed to fold these hands? I am feeling
really frustrated because I feel like I am playing
the hands correctly. I remember the bad-beat
article you sent me, and I have tried different
ways to approach. I have made big bets to get the
limpers and such out, but nothing seems to work. I
am favored about 9 to 1 when this crap happens. Do
I wait for the odds to hit or is there another way
I can pull off these big hands?

C.


>>> MY COMMENTS:

Oh jeeze. Here we go again...

Ok man... first off, take a deep breath.

What your question says to me is that you're being
very EMOTIONAL about your poker game.

You wrote things like, "I am feeling very
frustrated" and "I feel like I am playing
correctly".

STOP THAT.

The first step for you to start winning more
poker to stop FEELING so much and start THINKING
more.

Got it?

Secondly, you wrote:

"Am I supposed to fold these hands?"

And my answer is:

ONLY WHEN YOU'RE AT THE SAME TABLE AS ME.

If you start folding full houses and trip kings,
just because you're scared someone is going to
out draw you on the river, you should probably
QUIT POKER and start playing MONOPOLY instead.

Or maybe checkers... because that requires even
LESS INTELLIGENCE.

I'm serious.

I hate to break it to you, but your FRIEND is not
the luckiest person in the world. And he's not
always going to keep out drawing you.

Follow these three steps and I can promise you
things will get better:

1. Stop FEELING so much and start THINKING...

2. When you have a big hand against this FRIEND of
yours, go all-in and put him to a decision for all
his chips...

If your odds are 9:1 on this "crap" and he CALLS
your all-in bet, you're in good shape. Trust me.

3. Don't play big hands when there's a BIGGER hand
out there that can easily beat you.

If your friend goes all in when there are three or
four clubs out on the board, you should FOLD your
trips...

I know, I know, it's tough to fold trips. But he's
probably got the flush. So just muck it and live
to see another day.

If those three steps don't work, go play checkers.


*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

We play Texas Holdem once a week. There is always
one player (the same one every week) that bets
crazy. No matter what they have they raise the pot
$40, $80 and sometimes all in. I always fold
because if I call the pot gets raised until I
finally fold. What should I do?

J.
California


>>> MY COMMENTS:

Great question.

Playing against ultra-aggressive players can be
quite difficult, which is part of the reason why
I advocate adopting an aggressive style of play.

When you're at the table with someone who plays
this way, the key is to TIGHTEN UP UNTIL YOU CATCH
A GOOD HAND.

Then strike.

For instance, don't limp-in (call the blinds)
before the flop against this player. Instead, you
should either FOLD (when you don't have a good
hand) or RAISE (when you do have a good hand).

Don't call.

The only way you'll beat this player is to take a
stand and COME BACK OVER THE TOP OF HIM.

Put HIM on the defensive...

And if he is playing so loose that he re-raises
you when you have a good hand, then simply go
all-in and wipe him out.

Ultra-aggressive players aren't magically getting
fantastic cards every time. Instead, they're
simply playing more hands and BLUFFING a lot more.

The trick is to sit back, wait for the good hands,
and then play right back at him.

Don't FEAR his style... Just realize that he's
making it EASY for you to take all his chips as
soon as you refuse to let him push you around.

Let me know how it goes for you.


*** QUESTION FROM A READER ****

Roy,

I wanted to thank you for your on-line tips. With
your help I have become one of the most feared
players in the tournaments that I enter. I have
won $28000 since April 1st including 4 first place
finishes totaling over $20000. While it was me
that played the hands, I can see your influence in
my game. I look forward to your next post.

C.


>>> MY COMMENTS:

Nice!

Thanks for keeping me updated on your success.

I always appreciate hearing stories like yours.

And of course, I always appreciate ROYALTY CHECKS,
so feel free to send me some of that $28,000 you
just won... LOL. Just kidding.

The really great thing about poker is that you
REALLY CAN win a ton of money at it... whether
that means playing online, in tournaments, in the
casinos, or even just in home games.

Especially since there are a lot of "fish" out
there who are just getting started and don't
quite "get it" when it comes to strategy...

Which means that if you don't already own my Texas
Holdem Secrets poker course, NOW is the time.

You can download it from this page... Click here:

I'll talk to you again soon.

Your Friend,

Roy Monahan


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